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From: aj434@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bruce D. Nelson) Subject: Z*Net: 13-Mar-92 #9211 Date: Thu Mar 19 12:52:11 1992 | (((((((( | Z*Net International Atari Online Magazine | (( | ----------------------------------------- | (( | March 13, 1992 Issue #92-11 | (( | ----------------------------------------- | (((((((( | Copyright (c)1992, Rovac Industries, Inc. | | Post Office Box 59, Middlesex, NJ 08846 | (( | | (((((( | CONTENTS | (( | | | * The Editors Desk............................Ron Kovacs | ((( (( | * This Week In Atari History..............Dr. Paul Keith | (((( (( | * Z*Net Newswire........................................ | (( (( (( | * Flash 2 To Debut.........................Press Release | (( (((( | * ISD Conference Highlights...................Ron Kovacs | (( ((( | * Fasttech Conference Highlights..............Ron Kovacs | | * Perusing GEnie...............................Ed Krimen | ((((((( | * Glencon..................................Press Release | (( | * Perusing CompuServe......................Mike Mortilla | ((((( | * Atari Releases Hyperlist.................Press Release | (( | * Home Accounts 2..........................Press Release | ((((((( | * CeBit Report From GEnie............................... | | | (((((((( | ~ Publisher/Editor............................Ron Kovacs | (( | ~ Contributing Editor..........................John Nagy | (( | ~ Z*Net Newswire Ltd..........................Jon Clarke | (( | ~ Contributing Editor.....................Bruce Hansford | (( | ~ PD Software Reviews.....................Ron Berinstein | | ~ Reporter....................................Mike Brown | | ~ Assistant News Editor.......................Mike Davis | | ~ Z*Net Canadian Correspondent...........Terry Schreiber | | ~ Columnist....................................Ed Krimen | | ~ Columnist................................Mike Mortilla | | ~ UK Columnist...............................Mick Jarvis | | ~ Features Editor.........................Dr. Paul Keith | | |----------| $ GEnie Address....................................Z-NET | ONLINE | $ CompuServe Address..........................75300,1642 | AREAS | $ Delphi Address....................................ZNET | | $ Internet/Usenet Address..................status.gen.nz |----------| $ America Online Address........................ZNET1991 | | | Z*NET | * Z*Net:USA New Jersey...(FNET 593).......(908) 968-8148 | SUPPORT | * Z*Net:Golden Gate......(FNET 706).......(510) 373-6792 | SYSTEMS | * Z*Net:South Pacific....(FNET 693).NZ....(644) 4762-852 | | * Z*Net:Pacific .(INTERNET/@status.gen.nz)(649) 3585-543 | | * Z*Net:South Jersey.....(FNET 168).CCBBS.(609) 451-7475 | | * Z*Net:Illinois (Garage)(FNET 621).......(618) 344-8466 | | * Z*Net:Colorado (Mile High)(FNET 5)......(303) 431-1404 | | * Z*Net:Wyoming (Stormbringer)(FNET 635)..(307) 638-7036 | | * Z*Net:Texas (Hacker's Haven)(FNET 705)..(512) 653-3056 | | * Z*Net:Florida (Twilight Zone)(FNET 304).(407) 831-1613 | | Fido Address 1:363/112 ======================================================================= * THE EDITORS DESK by Ron Kovacs ======================================================================= A few updates this week.... Perusing GEnie will NOT appear for the next few weeks while Ed Krimen vacations in Europe. His pre-vacation last installment appears this week. We have received many updates to the Dealer Listing we ran a couple of weeks ago. Please forward ALL corrections to Z-NET or ATARIUSER on GEnie, 75300,1642 on CompuServe and Node 593 in email in FNET. A new feature begins this week called THIS WEEK IN ATARI HISTORY. The column will contain newswire extracts from Z*Magazine and pre-Z*Mag releases we did in 1983-1985 and online magazines released in-between. ====================================================================== * THIS WEEK IN ATARI HISTORY by Dr. Paul Keith ====================================================================== 1985 - ATARI MEETS BCS USER GROUP The Boston Computer Society General Meeting featured Leonard Tramiel of Atari, as well as Digital Research's Bruce Cohen, and Bill Bowman from Spinnaker, and marked the east coast unveiling of the new 520ST Computer. The meeting filled Boston's New England Life Hall to capacity. Tramiel reiterated the specifications mentioned in previous reports. I won't repeat any more than I have to. It appears that Atari is still on schedule and is still predicting release of the new machines in late April. Unfortunatly, Mr. Tramiel did not have a formal demo package available with him, so the actual demonstration of the machine was exceptionally weak. Tramiel described that the versatility of the ST's was enhanced by the multiple ports which include: 128K ROM slot, Hard Disk DMA Port (10 Megabit/Sec!), Floppy Disk Port (Daisy Chain), Standard RS232C Port, Centronics Printer Port, Monitor Output, RF (TV) Output, (2) MIDI Ports, In/Out, Joystick Port, and Joystick/Mouse Port. Bruce Cohen, from DRI explained the GEM operating system in detail, including how it was being developed in other applications. He indicated that the IBM PC would have a GEM system available in April. 1985 - 32-BIT ATARI PLANNED The first look at the new 32-bit Atari computers will come in April at a computer show in Hanover, Germany. Sam Tramiel privately confirmed that this machine would utilize the new National Semiconductor 32032 and would be a "VAX in a box." The next step for Tramiel, after his current plans, is to "turn around mainframe technology for a hand-held computer." 1987 - ATARI IBM CLONES The ATARI IBM CLONES may NOT be a reality, on the other hand... for a while, anyway. Two problems are are the major hangups: negotiations for GEM for the machine, and FCC acceptance. Neither area has had any positive movement, despite ATARI's optomistic projected "spring '87" release of the $500 do-it-all PC compatible. 1987 - ATARIFESTS IN TROUBLE AtariFests for Detroit and Chicago are in trouble. After a long seige of difficulty in negotiations with Atari, Detroit's 400-plus member M.A.C.E. club threw up their hands and pulled out of the effort, cancelling a planned August '87 show for the Southfield Civic Center. 1987 - MORE PANIC IN DETROIT Antic Magazine's publisher Jim Capperell wrote to Detroit's M.A.C.E. to notify them that they had to remove any and all ANTIC programs from their BBS. He reaffirmed that they are copyrighted, and to exchange them is PIRACY. 1987 8-BIT DOS ON A CART Mike Wheeler of Alaska has put Atari DOS 2.5 on a cart and added true double density support and a ramdisk handler. Although it is memory - greedy (16k when resident), the cart can be switched out manually. 1989 - TOS 1.4 UPDATE All developers should take note that the latest release of TOS 1.4 is the December upgrade. This will be the version that goes to Eprom. Developers should contact Cindy Clavern for more information. 1989 - WORLD OF ATARI The Anahiem World of Atari show has been expanded from 12,000 sq ft to 28,000 sq ft. At the same show, there will be a live concert after with Fleetwood Mac and 2 other name groups. 1990 - ATARIFESTS TO BE MORE CAREFULLY SCHEDULED Atari has discussed and announced the intention to exert more control over scheduling of Atari shows that request Atari's involvement. After some hard lessons last year that resulted in the cancellation of both user and commercial shows due to time conflicts, Atari now intends to firmly stand behind a policy of NO SHOWS WITHIN 30 DAYS OF OTHER SHOWS. 1990 - ATARI SOFTSOURCE READY TO GO Charles Cherry, Atari Corp Developer Support mogul, says that the SOFTSOURCE Program is ready to premier on a major telecommunications network. The system is 100% completed and is in private testing to be sure that it is fully operational when it is formally introduced in April. 1990 - DAVE SMALL/HAPPY COMPUTER LAWSUIT SETTLED A groundbreaking lawsuit involving charges of defamation via international telecommunications message systems was settled by a Court Order that also forbids the parties to discuss the details. Dave Small of Gadgets By Small was sued by Richard Adams of Happy Computer over statements posted as messages on GEnie last year. 1990 - 68030 ATARI LIKELY TO BE SHOWN AT WOA DISNEYLAND Late word from TWO locations both point to the 68030 computer(s) to be shown at the Anaheim World of Atari... one from Atari (the TT) and one from Dave Small. 1990 - ATARI REPORTS NET INCOME OF $5.7 MILLION Atari announced last week that income from continuing operations of $5.8 million or 10 cents per share on sales of $170.6 million for the quarter ended Dec. 31, 1989. 1991 - ST "GEMULATOR" IN PROGRESS FOR IBM Darek Mihocka of Branch Always Software (Quick ST) has confirmed rumors that he has a functional 68000 emulator working on an IBM platform. 1991 - APPLE STRIKES BACK AT SCHOOLS AND ATARI NEW ZEALAND Apples distributor in New Zealand CED, hit back this week at claims that they are over charging the education sector for their products. Responding to the criticism from Alex Davidson the Managing Director of Software Supplies (the New Zealand Atari distributor) Mr Crowe of CED said "At $NZ1895 the Macintosh Classic are as inexpensive as any machine on the market". 1991 - CEBIT '91 Atari surprised everyone with their announcement and demonstration of two exciting new 68000 based computers. ST Notebook - This is to be the smallest 68000 based computer in the world. Its size rivals any PC Notebook style computer. ST Pad - This is similar to ST Notebook and shares most of the features but has a futuristic interface. Although Z*NET has not received final reports from several correspondents at the Hannover CEBIT computer show, early comments include more hints and announcements of new hardware from Atari. Spied or discussed were: CDAR-505, a new CD-ROM player to be released SOON; "ATARIFILE 200", a Megafile with 200 meg hard disk (the clumsy name will be changed, but the "Megafile" moniker will be abandoned soon as well); TT030 machines with 28 meg of RAM and 1.2 GIGABYTE hard drives, available this fall; UNIX for the TT030; IBM emulation for the TT; and more. 1991 - DIAMOND BACK II Oregon Research Associates announces that it will assume the distribution and support of Diamond Back II effective immediately. To celebrate this occasion, Oregon Research Associates will release a major new version of Diamond Back II. 1991 -THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ATARIFEST ANNOUNCED Vancouver, Canada is hosting the first ever Pacific Northwest Atari Festival over the weekend of June 15th. and 16th. 1991, to be held at the Steveston Senior Secondary School, in the beautiful suburb of Richmond, B.C. ====================================================================== * Z*NET NEWSWIRE ====================================================================== AT&T PROVIDES ACCESS Anyone interested in AT&T's 1991 Annual Report may use the company's "AT&T News On-Line" service to access the report via computer. This is a database containing AT&T press releases, the AT&T Fact Book and, as of this week, the 1991 Annual Report. Users may access the system using any communications soft ware on a PC and a modem. Communications should be set for 7 data bits, 1 stop bit and even parity. The system operates 24 hours a day and provides access at two speeds, 1200 and 2400 bps. For 1200 modems, dial 908-221-8088. For 2400 modems, dial 908-221-2701. IBM PLANS LOW-COST COMPUTERS IBM announced this week that it plans to form a subsidiary to market low-end personal computers in Europe that differ from current IBM systems. The new PCs will not provide the same type of customer service that is offered with existing IBM machines and will not carry an IBM logo. Additional details about the plan will be available late in the second quarter. SPA ANNOUNCES SETTLEMENT The Software Publishers Association announced that a settlement has been reached in a software copyright infringement suit with Melco Industries. The products involved in the suit were manufactured by WordPerfect, Microsoft, Lotus, and AutoDesk. The SPA, speaking on behalf of the manufacturers, cited instances of unauthorized copying of software. Since 1988, the Software Publishers Association has filed over 100 lawsuits on behalf of its members and obtained numerous search and seizure orders against businesses, computer dealers, bulletin board services, and educational institutions that have violated its members copyrights. The SPA's anti-piracy hotline, 1-800-388-7478, accepts calls reporting software violations. WORDSTAR ANNOUNCES NEGOTIATIONS WordStar announced that it is engaged in negotiations with Delrina Corp regarding a merger of the two companies through an exchange of stock. No agreement has been reached, however, regarding the terms of any such transaction, including which company's stock would be used to affect the transaction. ====================================================================== * FLASH II TO DEBUT Press Release ====================================================================== Missionware Software is proud to annouce the introduction Flash II at the ACE '92 Show. We'll only be bringing a couple hundred copies of the program with us, so make sure to attend early! See the official show bulletin for complete pricing. And yes, we will be offering a substantial discount for those of you wishing to upgrade from an older version of Flash. You *must* bring your old disk along to qualify for that upgrade. Here's a list of just a few of the new features to be found in Flash II: * DO scripts are enhanced. Old script files continue to work with new features added for support of Flash II's new features. * DO scripts are no longer needed, however, for automating your logon process. All board parameters are now set via dialogs. These parameters are saved in the board configuration file and automatically configure Flash II when the board is activated. * Now permits the use of up to 30 function key macros. 10 macros are considered global, and are accessed by holding down the Control key and F1 thru F10 keys. The other 20 macros can be programmed separately for each board and are accessed with the unshifted and shifted function keys. The macros automatically load when the board is activated. * Flash II can be used to display, either on- or off-line RLE and GIF pictures. (Particularly handy on CIS which permits the use of online graphics viewing.) * Includes a new Review Mode. Save your online session to disk and later review it as if you were online! * Supports the following terminal emulations: TTY, VIDTEX, VT52, ANSI, VT100, VT101, VT102, VT200, VT300 & Prestel. * Supports ST, IBM and DEC characters sets. * Flash II is designed to work on any ST or TT, in any resolution, from 80 to 132 columns, and 24, 29 or 48 lines. * A new type ahead buffer is included. It supports up to three lines of text which is fully editable using the cursor, delete and backspace keys. The [Return] key and [Enter] key perform different functions, depending on the configuration. One can be used to enter forced carriage returns into your message, the other is used to send the message. * You can configure the amount of memory you wish Flash II to grab at startup. Older versions of Flash grabbed everything available. With multitasking on the horizon, you don't necessarily want to do that. You can continue to <Free> unwanted memory once in the program. * Includes command support for an automatic answer mode. * New, full-featured GEM text editor with more flexible block commands (you can now start and end blocks anywhere in a line), cut & paste commands, search & replace function, paragraph reformatting, user tab settings and page widths, automatic word wrap & text wrap modes, and much more. * The editor now permits you to select the type of display mode desired. Whereas older version of Flash always displayed carriage returns, you can now turn those on or off, as well as all other control characters. * Almost all menu functions have keyboard equivalents, such as Alt-L to "Load" a file. Where appropriate, these keyboard equivalents match the terminal mode keyboard equivalents. * Includes Silent Line, a new background file transfer program (replaces "Shadow"). * Internally supports the following protocols: ASCII, Xmodem, Ymodem, Ymodem-G, Zmodem, Modem7, WXModem, CIS B+, Kermit, SEAlink, and Telesoftware (for Discovery/Prestel systems). * Includes a new "Statistics" feature. Keeps track of all of your online time and upload/download information, and calculates your fees based on the BBS' rates. * Includes built-in timing functions. Flash II will autostart an online session using this timer. * Includes a totally rewritten, 226 page manual, fully indexed along with a table on contents. The manual includes a tutorial, detailed section on all functions of the program, and a 50-page section explaining (with examples) the DO script language. See you in Booth #222 at the show! John Trautschold Missionware Software ====================================================================== * ISD CONFERENCE HIGHLIGHTS Edited by Ron Kovacs ===================================================================== March 4, 1992 Calamus, one of the best (some say THE best) desktop publishing products available for any computer platform, has recently gotten even better with the release of Calamus SL. Here to tell us all about it and to answer your questions is Nathan Potechin, president of ISD Marketing. ISD is the North American publisher/distributor of the Calamus family of DTP products. Let's get this rolling now... Nathan, thank you very much for joining us this evening. Do you have any opening remarks to make before I start taking questions from the floor? <[Nathan] ISD> Thank you for joining us tonight. I believe it fair to say I am no longer an unknown entity online, especially on GEnie, as I once was and I am pleased that you have all made time to join us. With me this evening is Mario Georgiou, ISD's own Graphic Artist with 12 odd years of experience (In Mario's case, I stress the term "odd") :-) and Lou Rocha, a local desktop publisher, Editor of the Calamus SL manual and a school Principal by profession. Since we began filling backorders on Calamus SL almost one month ago now, the action online in our Category 16, has become fierce. :-) We have all been used to seeing 5 or 6 or even a dozen questions a day on Calamus but NOW, 45 or even 60 new messages every single day. We hope to have the last backorder out the door by the end of this week and will finally begin offering the product for sale to the Atari Dealers throughout North America, Australia and New Zealand. I made a decision to satisfy our customers needs first, and now will spend the next week insuring that all appropriate Magazines, both Atari and generic DTP related, receive their review copy and the proper followup. So, first came the customers, then the press, then the dealers. I suppose I'll have to start advertising fairly soon too, judging by the telephone calls I have already received on this subject. :-) I imagine I did this sort of backwards but I must say I am very pleased that I was in a position to do so and I will certainly take this opportunity to thank all of our valued customers for all of their support of us and our products over the years. Thank you! Calamus SL - The new direction in Pre-Press and publishing systems. Calamus SL offers a new concept in design and functionality providing a greater level creative control than other publishing systems. Calamus SL is a totally open system allowing for the addition of modules for specific tasks. Within Calamus SL, the complete world of desktop design and layout is placed at your fingertips. Calamus SL integrates the process of design and layout by standardizing the way you use different applications. Calamus SL is an environment designed to fulfill the requirements of anyone involved in the fields of Desktop Publishing, Prepress and Graphic communications. The system has been designed to allow full flexibility in terms of features, as such, Calamus SL is modular allowing the user to add or remove features to their application when they require them or to remove features when they have completed their work. Calamus SL has adopted a WYNIWYG philosophy, What You Need Is What You Get. There are modules for autotracing, color separation and calibration, data and document handling, the production of multimedia presentations, image management and editing, and many others. The software's capabilities make it a digital chameleon allowing it to change to suite the environment it is used in. Calamus has support for output devices ranging from dot matrix printers, laser printers, color thermal, dye sublimation and Imagesetters and Prepress Systems and technologies. Calamus SL's vector outline fonts can be scaled as large as required. Through the use of its own font rendering technology Calamus SL has true WYSYWYG allowing the user to know exactly what their documents will look like 100% of the time. This built in rendering technology uses the same font description for all display and output devices. Calamus SL has high speed document output through the use of its own powerful Page Description Language. Calamus SL has built-in support for 24 bit color. Calamus SL has support for RGB, IHS, CMY, HKS and CMYK color models and built-in Spot and Process color handling with a variety of calibration options. Up to seven documents can be loaded at the same time with interactive clipboard functions allowing the transfer of elements from one document to the another. Calamus SL also supports the import and export of industry standard text and graphic formats. Rotation of all Elements 360 degrees (Bitmaps are rotated 360 degrees through a module for image management. A user-definable autosave feature makes the complete loss of documents an unlikely event. Calamus's text capabilities include text alignment, kerning, tracking, vertical justification, rotation, flow around graphics, style tagging, widow and orphan control. A Text editing window allows for quick editing with functions for hyphenation and spell checking, search and replace, ruler and style definition, blocking functions with an undo feature. Calamus is capable of handling documents of unlimited physical size, with lengths up to 99,999 pages. This is enhanced with built-in virtual memory handling and File locking for the protection of various elements. Open up to 7 documents simultaneously while using the interactive clipboard for complete and easy passage of contents between documents. Calamus SL has approximately one thousand features with more on the way. <ELLIOTT.C> I haven't even seen Calamus yet ....wondering about kerning - how much manual adjustment needed after Auto is done. <[Nathan] ISD> Elliot, in most cases, the automatic kerning features inherent within Calamus SL leave very little for manual adjustment. However, if you should feel the need, you may perform adjustments in 4 directions, in 1/1000 of a point! <ELLIOTT.C> Suppose I do "cj", turn the j into a superscript; in Quark Express the letters would end up crashing. <[Nathan] ISD> They would NOT crash in Calamus SL. <C.S.SMETON> Nathan, What support for 3rd party module add ons exist, i.e. Developer documentation for creating printer drivers, import file filters, etc. <[Nathan] ISD> Hi Charles. I did bring back serious docs on exactly that issue but they remain in German. That is a problem. :-) Another is that they keep adding to, enhancing and changing the code all the time presenting a moving target. :-) This is a big priority of mine as I am anxious to offer many interested North American developers, almost all of which are my friends, :-) to write modules!! <C.F.JOHNSON> You mentioned that SL can do color separations -- I have 2 questions about this: 1) does SL support the Pantone standard, and 2) is there a service bureau in the US that can output these color separations at high res, on film? <[Nathan] ISD> We have not yet finalized an agreement with PANTONE themselves although we do have the offer sitting in-house. I am once again faced with a quandary over IBM type prices for my Atari product :-) but we do indeed intend to be able to offer PANTONE as soon as possible. In the meantime, we do have a few other color tables available now, one of which is FOCOLTONE which I am told is VERY precise! So the answer to 1. is not yet. As far as service bureaus, the one bureau with an Atari workstation in San Francisco is Omnicomp and offhand I don't know if they have upgraded to Calamus SL yet or not. But they should have :-) so I will call them tomorrow. Obviously we need more service bureaus out there capable of handling the Calamus solution, which is something to which I will devote a great deal of effort in the coming months. <C.F.JOHNSON> Is FOCOLTONE a German color standard? I've never heard of it. <[Nathan] ISD> FOCOLTONE originated in Britain 6 years ago. It is well known in Europe and is now getting established in North America. They are said to have far more precise color matching than ANY other color standards and are now available with those other well known DTP packages like Quark and Illustrator :-). <S.LAPHAM1> Since you seem prepared for common questions, could you please shoot us the upgrade info (cost, etc.) from 1.09N? And since I've only had 1.09N for a week, can I send in the upgrade cost with the 1.09N registration card to get SL? <[Nathan] ISD> The cost is US $200.00 from 1.09N to SL but there are other options available. And yes, please do upgrade when you send in your registration card from 1.09N. <S.LAPHAM1> I just bought a HP DeskJet 500C..is there a driver for it in SL? <[Nathan] ISD> YES, there sure is. I love having the right answers for a change. <K.BROOKS1> Why are the flags set not to use TT RAM with SL? <[Nathan] ISD> Wrong, the default setting on the Calamus SL program automatically sets the TT RAM flags. Did this get switched somewhere along the line? Hmmm. I'll check. <J.ARMSTRON20> Nathan, What about the Functions that are disabled in SL. Like Spellcheck & Set Layout/Work Area. <[Nathan] ISD> James, my apologies. There will be a new version following the completion of the upcoming CeBit show in Hannover that runs for 10 days starting next week. At the end of that time I expect many of the features that had not been activated will now be up and running. Spellchecking was absolutely 100% promised to be one of those. These kind of inactive features will eventually all disappear at no cost to yourself, other than shipping and handling perhaps but no way I could delay the release of the product itself any longer without getting hung. :-) <D.KERR1> Could you please explain what PKS Write has over the text editor in 1.09? <[Nathan] ISD> The best feature that is now available in PKS Write is the ability to modify layout from within the text editor. This includes pre-tagging information on just about everything that you could imagine. Besides, it also includes more advanced block functions, ability to apply key bindings inside the editor, edit kerning information, hyphenation and rulers and on and on. Drew, its has LOTS more than the old Editor. <[Drew] D.KERR1> I believe there are a thousand features in SL. You mentioned "many more to come." Could you reveal any of those "many more to come?" <[Nathan] ISD> I will cover a few of the modules. I just happen to have the proverbial block to upload. :-) Coming Soon..... Type Art This package was specially designed for the creation and manipulation of Typefaces and Logos. This software facilitates control over a fonts global kerning characteristics and specific kerning pairs. It also allows for the autotracing of scanned lineart allowing Logo libraries and fonts to be created. The tools allow the use of primitives and the merging of component parts such as stems and serifs etc. Two fonts can be in memory at any one time allowing the exchange and editing of up to 256 characters. Type Art also has built-in digitizer plotter support. The tools are second to none including floating pop up tool menus and very powerful mapping functions. A transformation calculator allows the use of formulae while other functions include a text preview window for the contextual fine tuning of kerning information, magnetic snap to grid and guidepoints, online help, stamp, join and auto-outlining functions and clipboards. This is the perfect tool for the Typographic designer. Outline Art 2 This product is for the creation of vector based illustrations using lines and bezier curves. It has tools for typographic manipulation and mapping. Outline Art 2.0 has 24 bit color support, allows type to be put into circles, to follow freely defined paths, to be graduated or mapped onto planes, and transformed or distorted. The use of intelligent clipboard and calculator functions make this a typographic special effects dream. Dataformer Dataformer is a series of modules specially dedicated to the export of data from Calamus SL. The product allows the export of any element or page from a document in a variety of formats. The first of two Dataformer modules can export to the following bitmap formats - GIF, IFF, IMG, PCX, TIF, TGA and the following vector based formats CVG, EPS (with or without TIF headers), WMF, GEM, HPGL and DXF. More formats will be added in time. Crescendo For music publishers the introduction of a package to convert an I.M.M.A standard MIDI file to a notated text file for inclusion in a document or for the publication of music sheets. The capability to prepare notated pages within Crescendo using polyphonic notation makes it a must for all music publishers. Job Manager This is a module designed for use by service bureaus or production houses to allow the queuing of jobs. It allows the specification of documents for printing and assignation of printing characteristics such as mirroring, inversion, page selection, multiple prints, scaling, resolution, pagination, color separation and output device selection. Mount and Print The specialist print module for Calamus. This module controls the final output of your document. Create left/right offsets for magazine production, collation, Imposition, tiling of pages, together with a host of other specialized functions to define your complete printing parameters to achieve optimum results. Multimedia Module This module is for the preparation of documents which include video and sound data for the purpose of preparing multimedia presentations. Purposely designed for the creation of product and advertising presentations, this module allows the specification of sound sampling rates of 6KHz to 50KHz. Video capabilities include control of playback speeds, Intensity, Hue, Saturation, Dissolves, etc,. Future Modules, specifications subject to change without notice, include: Paint & Draw : a raster and vector graphic editing module Curve & Line : an auto-tracing module for Monochrome, Grayscale and Color Images, which will be an upgrade from Speed Line. Logo Art : a special vector editor for company logos and a Barcode generation module. and about 95 others. It is my intention to release a few modules every couple of months without fail for the next few years. And I fully intend to meet that commitment! <[John Nagy] Z-NET> I want to say that my testing on SL so far has been a delight! It is much faster than I anticipated, even though I must suffer along at ST speed... so far. ;^) SL is clearly a full-out professional grade package. Which leads to my question... what about "CALAMUS S"? Is it being dropped? Will 1.09N be the monochrome home use standard for some time to come? It certainly remains as fine a product for 99.5% of the uses a person could have at home... and at the price difference (below SL), 1.09N remains the affordable choice... if it is offered. <[Nathan] ISD> Apparently, there will be a version called Calamus S. Until it is actually finished and in my hand, I will keep quiet on it. Once it is done and released, it will replace 1.09N without a doubt. In the meantime, Calamus 1.09N remains an excellent desktop publishing solution that still shines proudly on all our Atari computers!! <[DOUG] D.HOPP1> I have ver.1.09.6 and overscan the text editor does not work in overscan. Is this corrected in 1.09N or SL? <[Nathan] ISD> I am sorry, Doug. I cannot be responsible for the response of Calamus product with Overscan. I believe that it is compatible with 1.09N but I literally have no idea if it works with SL or not as I do not have Overscan myself. Sorry. <BOB-BRODIE> Nathan, I've had visitors in my office on and off during the CO, so my apologies if my question was already asked. Garry says Hi, BTW. Would you please comment on the various color boards that are available (or that are known to be in development) and their compatibility with Calamus SL? IE Crazy Dots, Matrix, etc. Any specific recommendations? What capabilities are available for our users ie rez, colors, etc. <[Nathan] ISD> I have just been told that Overscan works with Calamus SL. Hi Bob. Hi to Garry. I am personally aware of the Leonardo from Jay Craswell, the Crazy Dots board represented by Gribnif, the ISAC/ AlberTT combo by Jay again I believe, the Matrix cards and the Cybercube cards. I cannot imagine any of those products NOT working with Calamus SL and have personally seen both the Matrix, the ISAC and the Cybercube Sunrise up and working. One of my close associates just /sent me a note stating Calamus SL has been tested and performs nicely on the Crazy Dots board as well. Calamus SL has 24 bit color built-in. It will handle any variation of same without a hitch. I do recommend that if anyone starts doing serious color work, both on screen and output that they either purchase a TT or an accelerator board like the TURBO 030 from Jim or Dave's SST. <[Nathan] ISD> I would just like to take this opportunity once again to thank everyone that has supported us over the years and a sincere thank you for attending this evening and listening to what one die-hard Atari Developer has to offer. :-) Thank you. ====================================================================== * FASTTECH CONFERENCE HIGHLIGHTS Edited by Ron Kovacs ====================================================================== March 11, 1992 Fast Technology's Jim Allen was the first to break the 8 MHz speed barrier on the Atari ST with the commercial release of Turbo16. Since that time, Jim has been wringing more and more speed out of the ST with products like Turbo20 and Turbo25. But there's only so much you can expect from a 68000 so Jim has added the 68030 to the Atari arsenal with the much anticipated Turbo030 and the recently announced TinyTurbo030. If you folks haven't done so already, check out Category 4, Topic 11 starting with message 82 for more specifics about TinyTurbo030. But in the meantime, we have Jim Allen here to tell us more about the Fast Technology product lineup and to answer your questions. <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> Fast Technology is about to start shipping the latest in a long line of great accelerator cards. I'll list what is available and for how much: Turbo20 a 20Mhz 68000 card....$329 Turbo25 a 25Mhz 68000 card....$379 STE adapter for these...$49 And now TinyTurbo030 a 40+Mhz very tiny 68030 card....$999 As an introductory price, the TinyTurbo030 will be available at the fantastic price of $599!!!! This addition to the lineup gives you a choice of speeds ranging from 2 TIMES faster all the way up to 6-7 TIMES faster than the stock ST!!! The TinyTurbo030 is a real breakthrough product, putting more power in a smaller volume than any accelerator maker has done before!! The TinyTurbo030 includes a 40Mhz 030 at its heart, with a 32K 20ns static ram cache, and Atari's TOS 206 operating system. A stock 68000 chip is also onboard, so at the flick of a switch you can go back in time and technology, and enjoy your favorite older software, or run time critical music software. The TinyTurbo030 comes in two different configurations, one for the STs, which looks like a larger Turbo25 and another designed specifically for STE/MegaSTE computers which is a simple plug in, only a screw driver and pliers are needed!! Two options are available, a super fast math co-processor, the 68882 50Mhz model, which we run at 40, 50, or 60Mhz!!! And our own customized Virtual Memory software, which eats up 512K to 1Meg of your ST ram, but lets the system "think" it has up to 128Megs of TT ram...even in your old trusty 1985 520ST!!!! All of this is made possible by the great folks at Atari Corporation, who have created one heck of a nice new TOS....TOS 2.06!!!! So Fast Technology has a speed choice for everyone, and a price to match every budget!!! To take advantage of the super introductory price on the TinyTurbo030, simply place and advance order before April 30th, 1992, and include a deposit of 50%...so we know you're a serious customer!!! The TinyTurbo030 is such a nice product, so well polished, that it comes with a 30day money back guarantee!!!! The Math coprocessor option is only $299, and for Dynacadd and Lexicor customers, it offers a 30-50 TIMES increase in rendering speed...well worth the price. Only a $50 deposit is required with the order. The Virtual Memory option is also $299, which we pass on to the inventor, and includes an upgrade to a 50Mhz 68030 chip...great price for 50Mhz and 128Megabytes of ram!!! The deposit is only $50 also. <JEFF.W> What are the functional differences between Turbo030 and TinyTurbo030? Are there any compromises needed to fit it into so small a package? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> The Turbo030 is a full size...5.5"x5.5".. board for MegaST computers only, it has a sram cache to speed up mother board activities...just like the TinyTurbo030 (coincidence?) and also has 4 or 16 Meg of real 32 bit super fast Fast Ram. We'll be releasing it in a week or two, and do another RTC on it....it's also $1495 ;-) <[Steve] S.GOLD6> Would VM software slow down a system. Also when is projected delivery on the Tiny Turbo boards. <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> The Virtual software does slow things down a bit...compared to running flat out on the 030, but not enough to be a pain. Anyone exposed to SUN 3/60 Unix workstations knows about how much things will bog down, but the benefits outweigh the speed hit BIG TIME. I'd HIGHLY recommend dedicating at least a piece of a fast Quantum hard disk for use with the VM, it will require a piece of your hard disk equal to the amount of "RAM" you're adding to the system as VM. The faster the disk the better...dedicating a $250 LPS52 is not unreasonable if you have older slow disks. The PCBoards are being designed in New Hampshire now, then they'll go to Taiwan to be made, then back here to be stuffed (surface mount parts) and then shipped!!! This process will require 8-10 weeks. I wish I didn't have to go to Taiwan, but I've had nothing but trouble with local PCBoard manufacturers, quality is definitely not job one...bummer. <[Dave] D.SHORR> Hi Jim, can your TT030 use an ST's existing memory as 32-bit RAM, or is the Virtual Memory option intended for this purpose? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> Dave, the VM software uses a piece of ST ram, and "pretends" that it is official TT ram. So the control panel CPX says....128Meg of TT ram!!! ;-) While the rest of your ST ram is left available for use, like for video and SLM printers, etc. <[Dave] D.HAEFNER> Can a MEGA bus be added to a stock ST via your card? (To allow use of expanded video,etc) Or is this now obsolete, unused, impossible, whatever? And have you tested Spectre GCR compatibility? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> Dave, JRI makes a nice FPU adapter card that includes a Mega bus addon. The FPU part can be left un populated, and you can use this in your ST, now, and after TinyTurbo030 ;-) It lets you use a Moniterm, etc. But you'll need to do something cabinet-wise, otherwise you'll have a big board hanging out on your desk...not a good thing to do ;-) <[Dave] D.HAEFNER> What about Spectre? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> The TinyTurbo030 works just fine on Spectre 3.0 now, but Dave will be coming out with a version 3.1 down the road that should be a little more "030" aware. There are some potential problems with critical timing areas, but I've used it and had little if any trouble as-is. <R.GUADAGNO1> The First, have you heard of any problems with the CodeHead TEC board when using the TURBO-16 or ICD AdSpeed (in 16MHz mode) on a MEGA ST? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> I have heard a couple complaints re: Turbo20/25 in Germany, but nothing on T16. The Codeheads have T16s and have tested them...it's a GO!!! If you do experience and thing, we'll fix whatever is needed to make it work, not to worry!! <R.GUADAGNO1> Second, My friend Mark (M.SANTORA2) won a TURBO-25 at the WAACE show and would like to know when they will be back in stock? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> Marks unit, along with another persons, went out days ago, the T25s took some time to polish 100% but now, they're golden!!! <[Sysop] JEFF.W> Is this a regular 68030 in the TinyTurbo030 or one of the 68EC030s? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> Depends purely on what is cheapest at purchasing time, we've been getting real 40Mhz units for LESS than our Motorola rep can quote an EC for!!! ;-) <[Sysop] JEFF.W> Are there any performance differences between them? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> Nope, only the MMU portion missing on the EC, otherwise they're the same. In fact, I've done some surgery on one, opened it up, and altered the connection of the MMUDIS signal inside...using the RP package (plastic pin grid) the chip is actually glued to a PCboard, with a small aluminum cover on it, you can pull it off and mess with the insides!!! <[John@Atari] TOWNS> Hi Jim. Just wanted to ask about Compatibility. Have you had the chance to do some compatibility testing and how does it fair? Is it more compatible than a TT? What kinds of things have you done to make sure that your product is as compatible as possible? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> I'd say it's a "little" more compatible...at speed...since it is always 24bit addressing mode. For instance, TEMPUS 1 and 2 work OK, in fact all the big productivity stuff does...except Timeworks DTP 1. The key compatibility modes are, the roms answer at $FC as well as $Ex, the unit is 24bit rather than 32bit as far as address map is concerned. We've patched in all the TT equivalent MMU and cache controlling code, cold booting, etc. And above all we've kept the 68000 chip available, so you can switch back, and the TOS can be set to be OFF in 68000 mode, so the motherboard roms will work... TOS 1.0/1.2, etc. <T.REYES> Can one increase the amount of SRAM cache RAM on your board? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> No, we did extensive research in cache ram size over the years, and 16K of data space is really quite sufficient. Any larger becomes inconvenient physically and too costly. Motorola has found that 8K is actually the best speed/cost trade off. <P.MARTZ> How do you get 16 Bit Ram to act like 32 Bit Ram? Sounds like a pretty good option for those how don't want to buy a new machine. <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> The application doesn't know what the ram is actually, it only runs and accesses certain address ranges, the VM software just fakes out the OS into thinking there is actually a bunch of real chips out there, when there aren't any ;-) You may order any Fast Technology products through either Fast Technology, or through ISD Marketing, J.ALLEN27 or ISD Email here on GEnie!! <[Joe] J.MIRANDO1> Jim, in your press release you made mention of a few enhancements to TOS 2.06 for the '030 boards. Are these enhancements of use only to '030 users, or are they things that T16/20/25 users could benefit from? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> We've put in a couple neat things. If you have a real time clock, we put the bootup delay into the unused alarm ram space, which lets you have a real user selectable boot delay...but also user settable ;-) There's other things we do the same with, but it's too early to talked about them. These all DO work for 68030 and 68000 ;-) <[Joe] J.MIRANDO1> Sounds like you've been thinking these thing out well! When will this be available to the public? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> The TinyTurbo030 will be about 10 weeks away, the Turbo030 is only a few days away, and we have units in stock, with 4 Megs of ram, and one HECK of a speed boost...like nothing you can imagine ;-) <[Steamy Wreck] MYECK.WATERS> I have a UK keyboard - any chance of getting a UK TOS on this thing! <smirk>? <[Jim@FASTTECH] J.ALLEN27> No sweat, just specify it with the order, I have US UK and German versions!!! I'd just like to close by saying THANK YOU for stopping by, and thank you to all Fast Tech's customers for your patronage, you have made all this possible. ====================================================================== * PERUSING GENIE Compiled by Ed Krimen ====================================================================== -=> In the "Atari Corporation Online" category (14) -=> from the "Notebook and Pad?" topic (7) Message 76 Sat Mar 07, 1992 D.FLORY [ALERTsys*Cop] at 00:12 EST I had a chance to look at a production Notebook today. No chance to use it but, that is one beautiful of piece of industrial design. It looks _great_. A real class looking item. If it works as well as it looks its going to knock some people on their collective ears. I can't wait 'til I get a chance to actually buy one. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" -=> In the "Atari Corporation Online" category (14) -=> from "Atari's New TOS 2.06" topic (8) Message 92 Sat Mar 07, 1992 M.DRYSDALE [Drys] at 09:24 EST All, We've installed 6 MSTE 1.44 drive upgrades and as many 2.06 in STe machines, here's some of the results/problems. One MSTe does not work with 1.44 floppies BUT does work fine with 720k floppies. The test cart confirms this. (Nice touch - the MSTe test cart was all ready for 1.44 drives.) This same machine is NOW having problems with its internal hard drive. Have a STe (maybe two) that after installing 2.06 does not read disks it read under 1.62. I think there may be "something" in the boot sectors of the disks it will not read; not a virus, but a booter of some kind. In a related event, we have installed 2.05 (yes 2.05) in two STe machines, one works fine, one had some problems. And lastly for all you hardware hackers - have one customer who bought the MSTe 1.44 kit and claims to have installed it in his STe. He is using 1.44 disks with no problems. He installed the new ROMs, Ajax, drive and rigged up some sort of 16MHz signal. Mike Drysdale, TEAM COMPUTERS (Stumped with no answers) ---------- Message 94 Sat Mar 07, 1992 J.ALLEN27 [FAST TECH] at 12:26 EST Since there is a peice of circuitry missing in the STE that the MSTE has related to 1.44 drives, I'd doubt someone could just plug the kit into an STE and presto! Tos 206 wants to talk to a device that isn't in the STE and will "bus error" on an STE. ---------- Message 133 Wed Mar 11, 1992 J.PATTERSON3 [Ted] at 19:24 EST I just got TOS 2.06 from a dealer, but without any docs. After reading this topic I understand that I have to change some jumper positions (I assume these are w101-w103) but I don't know what the positions should be changed to. Presently I'm getting 3 bombs on boot-up. Can anyone help me with the jumper positions? Thanks, _____ /ed ---------- Message 134 Wed Mar 11, 1992 T.MCCOMB [=Tom=] at 20:42 EST Chip EE goes in U102 Chip EO goes in u103 W102 -> Jumper 1 to 2 W103 -> Jumper 2 to 3 W104 -> Jumper 1 to 2 The above info is for an STE In a MegaSTE EE -> U206 EO -> U207 W201 1 to 2 w202 2 to 3 W203 1 to 2 -Tom """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" -=> In the "Atari Corporation Online" category (14) -=> from the "TOS Utilities from Atari" topic (32) Message 159 Sun Mar 08, 1992 A.WESTON [Alan] at 23:01 EST I think it's time for Atari to release TOS 1.0 on disk ala the 8-bit translator disk. What do they have to lose except for increased compatibility? ---------- Message 160 Sun Mar 08, 1992 C.F.JOHNSON [CodeHead] at 23:50 EST There is one very serious problem with using TOS 1.0 on disk, to fix programs that are incompatible with newer versions. If you have a hard drive, and have formatted one or more of your partitions to a size greater than 16 Megabytes, switching back to TOS 1.0 is *VERY* dangerous. TOS versions before 1.04 did not support partitions larger than 16 Meg, and if you do _anything_ that writes to such a partition while running TOS 1.0, you *will* destroy all data in that partition. And please note that just about every bootup manager program writes to the hard disk during bootup - - so even if you think you can be careful and not allow any writes to the disk, you can still blow away your hard disk just by booting up your computer. There are other problems, too; this is just the most serious one. Charles --------- Message 165 Mon Mar 09, 1992 TOWNS [John@Atari] at 16:23 EST A support factor. TOS on Disk doesn't work the same way as it does from ROM. There are programs that will work just fine with a version of TOS in ROM but will fail on a disk-based TOS version. We don't want support nightmares to deal with. The correct solution to the problem of incompatible software is for the software companies to fix their broken software. We (Atari) have made information on the differences in TOS versions available to Developers. We can't be expected to support someone else's bad programming practices. -- John Townsend, Atari Corp. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" (Gadgets by Small RoundTable) -=> In the "SST/68030 for the ST" category (9) -=> from the "SST/68030" topic (2) Message 164 Mon Mar 09, 1992 SANDYSMALL at 00:20 EST 1. As of right now, we are backordered until May-June, depending on the parts suppliers (I'm not counting on parts until I can see the whites of their eyes). 2. Distributors will start getting SSTs around the end of March, so Dealers will get them around the first part of April (more or less). 3. We tested Supercharger last year at CEBIT, and it ran fine then. However, I do not know what version it was, and I don't remember if we might have changed something since then. Regards, Sandy """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" -=> In the "Hardware" category (4) -=> from the "Turbo16 from Fast Technology" topic (11) Message 82 Tue Mar 10, 1992 J.ALLEN27 [FAST TECH] at 23:56 EST Finally....... FAST TECHNOLOGY proudly announces..... TinyTURBO030 TinyTurbo030 is our entry level 68030 based accelerator for the Atari ST and STE computer line. There are two versions, one for the ST, the STE (including MegaSTE). They are identical in function and feature, differing only in physical layout. The TinyTurbo030 has the following features: * Motorola's advanced "030" running at 40Mhz!!!! * a spot for an optional 68882 FPU chip running at 60Mhz!!! * Onboard 8Mhz 68000 chip for _100%_ compatibility, hard/software * The most compact 030 accelerator design available anywhere * Fits all models of the ST and STE line, even the STacy * Optional Virtual Memory software for up to 128Megabytes of "ram" * Super fast static ram cache design to speed up program AND video!! * Makes your ST or STE up to 6 TIMES faster in real world use * Equipped with Atari's new TOS 2.06, with some further enhancements!! * Bundled with CodeHead Technology's QuickST acceleration software * Specially designed to support and speedup Mega ST/VME video boards * Fully BLiTTER chip compatible, works with them all!!! * No auxiliary or replacement power supply needed!!!! * Only 3.5" by 2.5", fits in the palm of your hand!!! Fast Technology has been honing this design to perfection for a full year now, we have numerous beta test sites and customers around the world, so TinyTurbo030 customers are assured of solid performance and a no-hassle installation and above all a _very_ high degree of compatibility in 030 mode, and total compatibility in 68000 mode. When you buy a TinyTurbo030 you are buying a proven design from the leaders in Atari accelerator design!!! The 68000 onboard the TinyTurbo030 lets the user boot up as a stock machine, able to run any software, or use any peripheral which isn't compatible with an 030 chip...simply at the flip of a switch!! The 68000 may also be set to boot off your original TOS roms, just in case TOS 206 compatibility is in doubt. The 030 is running at a minimum of 40Mhz, when the final printed circuit boards are here, we'll decide on 40...42...46...... The Virtual Memory option is a sneaky software way of making your system "think" it has lots more than the standard 4Megabytes of ram ST/ STE computers are capable of. This does require you to have 4 Megs of real ram in your ST/STE, but for those who need ooooodles of memory, that's no big deal. The Virtual Memory option also includes an upgrade to the 50Mhz 030 chip and perhaps a bit high clock speed ;-) There is a spot for a 68882 math coprocessor. We say "spot" because due to height restrictions a socket is not possible in most ST/STE systems. Here at Fast Technology we have the ability to install and remove PGA chips easily, so being soldered in is not a problem. We use the PGA... pin grid array...package because that's the only one the 50Mhz 882 chip is available in. We've been using 50Mhz 882's at 60-75Mhz for months without a single failure. The temperature range that desktop ST/STE computers live at is low enough to allow this. The TinyTurbo030 has been tested with Moniterm, ISAC, Matrix, Crazy Dots, and a few other obscure video addon boards. When you dive into the world of serious DTP and CAD work, and have invested in a big screen setup, you REALLY NEED an accelerator. The basic design of the TinyTurbo030 is similar to that of the now "World Famous" Turbo25. A small super highspeed static ram cache combined with a very fast 030 processor produces a very healthy speed increase in a Tiny package. Combining the proven design of the Turbo25, with the tremendous speed of the 030 chip seemed a natural, and the TinyTurbo030 was born. Using Atari's TOS 2.06 the TinyTurbo030 brings you the latest and greatest of Atari's operating systems. This new OS has been enhanced and made immune to speed, your system will feel like it was designed from scratch, custom, just for you!! We've added some nice features too, like a user settable boot delay, and other "goodies". How fast is it? Take a look... QINDEX 2.2, MegaST4, Blitter on, ST high resolution, QuickSTE(TT) speed comparison versus Tos 1.4 Test TinyTurbo030 AtariTT ---- ------------ ------- Memory 497 812 Register 1024 827 Divide 1268 1024 Shift 4457 3661 Text 1032 894 String 5121 4756 Scroll 158 426 Draw 1508 1003 Tos 2.06 3.06 Mhz 40 32 Dynacadd 3D Cup 43seconds 50seconds In real world use, like CalamusSL, the TinyTurbo030 is without question faster than a fast ram equipped TT, just ask a Tiny user!! How much does it cost? The TinyTurbo030 has a list price of $999.00 US, compared to other accelerators of similar speed on other platforms, like the Amiga and Mac, this is a very reasonable price. But wait.... For a limited time only...till April 30th, 1992...the TinyTurbo030 introductory price is $599 !!!! Yes, only $599 will get upgrade your ST/STE to the latest technology, with a massive speed increase, the new Atari TOS, and still allow you to maintain total compatibility with your favorite oldies!!! The only requirement to lock in this price is that we receive your deposit for 50%...$300...before April 30th. The other 50% due when your TinyTurbo030 is shipped. The FPU option is $299 ($50 deposit) and the Virtual Memory option is also $299($50 deposit). Include with your order a COMPLETE description or your system, and your option choices if any. ---------- Message 86 Wed Mar 11, 1992 J.ALLEN27 [FAST TECH] at 10:16 EST To order a TinyTurbo030, send your order, a complete system description, and deposit to: Fast Technology 14 Lovejoy Rd. Andover, MA. 01810 (508) 475-3810 TinyTurbo030....$599.....$300 deposit 68882 option....$299..... $50 deposit Virtual Mem.....$299..... $50 deposit Balance due when the unit ships. TinyTurbo030 comes with a 30 day moneyback guarantee, if you're not completely satisfied with your TinyTurbo030, simply return it. We are sure you'll have your socks blown clean off!! For customers in Canada, send your order to: ISD Marketing 2800 John St., Unit #15 Markham, Ontario, Canada L3R-2W5 (416) 479-1880 Both Fast Technology and ISD Marketing offer installation services, and can make your AtariST installation a breeze, AtariSTE installation is a simple plug in, requiring only a phillipshead screwdriver and needle nose pliers. Other custom system modifications will be offered, including installation of Wuztek.OPI high density floppy systems, ram upgrades, and other "goodies" we're working on. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" -=> In the "Hardware" category (4) -=> from the "ICD's AdSpeed ST Accelerator" topic (16) Message 254 Sun Mar 08, 1992 R.GLOVER3 [Rob] at 19:08 EST Here are the AdSpeed/Spectre benchmarks you requested: AdSpeed 16 MHz AdSpeed 16 MHz (Color) Mac LC SE/30 IIfx ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU 2.39 1.745 3.32 4.03 11.30 Graphics 2.31 1.732 4.39 5.38 8.53 Disk 1.04 .928 .76 1.41 1.48 Math 3.33 2.493 7.76 12.90 42.49 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Overall 2.19 1.652 3.58 4.80 11.62 Note that the Macs all have math coprocessors. Disk speed is low on my machine because I have a dreadfully slow 405K/sec Seagate 80 meg unit (soon to be replaced with a Quantam LPS240PRO (1197K/sec)! Notice how much slower it is under color! On paper, it doesn't appear to be that much slower, but it is REALLY slow. For comparison, those figures assume a Mac Classic to be 1.0 in all areas. An 8 MHz ST comes out to around 1.24 (approx) overall. This is tested with Spectre 3.0 at the simulated 60 Hz VBI (default). Rob """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ====================================================================== * GLENCON Press Release ====================================================================== On Saturday, March 28, 1992 CodeHead Technologies will be the special guest for this year's first Glendale Atari Developers' Conference (GLENCON). Atari's Bob Brodie drew a standing room only crowd at last year's conference, and Atari personnel have been invited this year, too. The Glendale Conferences are sponsored by the User Group, H.A.C.K.S., but attendance is open to all ATARI Clubs and ATARI owners. Several conferences are planned for this year, with the intent of each to focus attention on the design and use of popular and powerful software or hardware for Atari computers. The CodeHead Conference will be held in the 275 seat theatre above the Glendale Public Library's Main Branch, 222 East Harvard Street, Glendale, CA. The meeting will start promptly at 10:30 AM and is expected to last three hours. Best of all, admission is FREE, but it is on a first come, first serve basis only. Take I-5 to the Colorado exit, go East a mile to Louise Street, turn North, go one block. An alternative route is to take the 134 FWY to the Central exit, go South a mile to Harvard street, turn East, go two blocks. For more specific directions refer to the, 1991 or prior, L.A. County Thomas Bros. Guide, Page 25-E5. CodeHead Software is one of the oldest and strongest developers of ATARI Products. John Eidsvoog and Charles Johnson are well know to the ATARI community. In fact, there is a good chance that half the people reading this announcement still owe them shareware payments. Their extensive product list includes, HotWire, MaxiFile III, HotWire Plus (includes Maxifile), MultiDesk Deluxe, CodeKeys, LookIt & PopIt, G+Plus, CodeHead Utilities, MidiMax, MIDI Spy, Quick ST, Avant Vector (with EPS), Avant Plot, Genus Font Editor, MegaPaint Professional, Cherry Font Packs, TOS Extension Card, TOS Ext. Card - CPU or BUS Bridge and TOS Chip Set. As an added bonus, The Computer Network, a local ATARI Computer Store, will be having an Open House in honor of this Conference. The store plans to have other developers, including CodeHead and Omnimon Peripherals, Inc. in attendance. Store manager and co-owner Mark Krynsky will be spending the morning hours marking down prices and unpacking special purchases for this Open House. The Computer Network is located at 1605 West Glenoaks Boulevard, Glendale, CA. Directions from the Library to the Store will be available at the Library. The Open House will be from 2:00 PM to 7:00 PM, after the CodeHead Conference is over. If you have specific questions about the Open House you may call Mark at 818-500-3900. This Conference is a precursor to The Glendale Show. This year's show will be held on September 12 & 13, 1992, rescheduled to a week earlier than had been previously announced. More details will be forthcoming as the show date grows closer. John King Tarpinian, President The Hooked on ATARI Computer Knowledge Society ====================================================================== * PERUSING COMPUSERVE by Mike Mortilla ====================================================================== "Knowledge is of two kinds. We know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information upon it." Samuel Johnson, 1709-1784 Nothing could more accurately describe what is perhaps the real boon of telecomputing. When these little clumps of chips and keys hit the stores "a few years ago," it was thought that they would prevent people from communicating on a personal level. That was about as true as the "fact" that owning a computer would eliminate the use of paper (ha!). And on CIS, finding information is as simple as typing FIND xxx. This could a little frustrating, not because it is hard to find information, but because the results usually turn up more information than one can assimilate in a single session. This week alone we were able to find out about the kidney disease which struck out pet kitty, Spooky, and how to discuss it intelligently with the vet (GO PETS). We also discovered the forums for journalists. If you think there are a lot of messages on the Atari forums, check out the forums for people who write for a living! On to our "little nitch" of Atari computing. We got a glimpse of life in Japan by an American "turist." Sorin Cioara has been there for about a year and a half and relates some experiences on CIS from the Far East. We cringe when the US government spends $1000 on a toilet seat, but in Japan, Sorin tells us that: "While some people have $1200 toilet seat covers (they wash and dry and keep your bum warm and they have remote control) about 50% don't have flushing toilets. That's right, every month the vacuum car comes by and cleans the 'pit'. What happens to the 'grey water' you ask. It gets dumped in the nearest creek, of course. This is happening at the same time as the people get a lot of incentive to buy small (less polluting?) cars." Sorin also tells us about areas of the country with an apparent split personality, where some people live in the 21st century and others are stuck in the 13th century. And you thought the Atari forums on CIS were just about computing! Back to "domestic" problems, there is apparently some incompatibility between some ARC shell programs and TTPs in use out there. We and others have tried to de-ARC, de-LZH and un-ZIP files, only to find they had "bad headers" and unknown compression "methods." The quick fix is to run the TTP program and use the command line to explode the file. A word of warning to those who don't read the READ.ME files. Along with the usual shareware pleas, there are instructions (funny how that works out!). There are frequently a number of "parameters" which need to be entered before a procedure can be successfully carried out. For example, in the ZIP.TTP, when the command line comes up, you'll need to enter something like this: "x zipfile.zip A:\" (or) "i A:\zipfile.zip foo.c" Otherwise, you won't be able to do a thing! We don't know where the problem lies, but we were able to eventually extract all the files we downloaded so it's not insurmountable. If the shell authors are reading this, they may want to fix the problem (maybe in exchange for a little shareware payment?) <g>. Jeff over at Intersect has been active in the Atari forums and we thank him for offering his help when it's needed. But he also offers help "before" it's needed. Consider his message on March 6: "Fm: INTERSECT Software 76004,1577 To: all Re: Connecting to a US Robotics or other 14,400 modems with a V.32 modem Recently I've tried to connect to several 14,400 baud modems with my Cardinal V.32 with V.42bis support. I've not had any success, the symptoms were, connect tones and then a hangup at the protocol negotiation stage (the CD light wouldn't light.) I've found a way around this problem, turn your RS-232 speed to 9600... this defeats the V.42bis negotiation and the connect never goes past the 9600 (V.32) stage. I guess the protocol negotiation hangs on a USR modem's 14,400 protocols. Recently I've seen several postings about the problems with "different" 9600 baud modems connecting to each other. I scoffed at those comments V.32 is V.32, there should be NO problem connecting, the USR modem states V.32 support so they should connect with NO problems. It seems that the problem occurs when a V.32 modem with Advanced support (v.42 bis) trys to connect to a USR dual standard modem the problem occurs if V.42 is enabled. [Jeff]" In answer to a later question Jeff continues: "It could be the Cardinal 9600 baud modem at fault. Or it could be a problem with when the US Robotics is in Answer mode. Since the 9600 baud modems are relatively expensive I haven't had many to use as test, to test which is at fault. I have a Supra V.32bis V.42bis modem on order and testing connects to different modems is my first project. The messages I've read on different BBS's about problems with different V.32 modems connecting at 9600 prompted me to leave the message. [Jeff]" We were just about to bash someone for telling a "gender sensitive" joke, but when we read the following message from D. Stuart, we were stopped in our tracks: "Yeah. Goes over big at feminist conventions, huh! Sort of like poking fun at ridgerunners in a W. Virginia bar ... Actually, I lost my sense of humor the other day along with a load of lumber that cracked my skull, fractured a collarbone, broke several ribs, and altered my usually handsome and distinguished appearance considerably. Mostly, though, it just hurts like hell when I laugh. The load shifted and laid the rig over at 50 mph - I got strained thru the windshield and fortunately the wreckage came to a stop about half a second before I did, so I'm still around to talk about it with an aire of levity! An intelligent woman kept a death grip on my temporal long enough to make the difference, and I haven't seen any UFO's lately! Ciao! DS" Well, were sure wish DS a swift recovery. The Atari forums are feeling more and more like an extended family! The big discussion in the Networking area this week relates to reading ST disks on an IBM. It appears that the letters "IBM" need to appear in the FAT before an IBM drive will read the directory. Other members speak of a "magic" number the ST writes at the time of formatting. But from the discussion, we believe it is possible to re-write the FAT on an ST disk so an IBM will read it. Some users report success with certain programs while others report that the same programs "trashed" their disks. So we are left in a state of limbo for the moment. It would appear that the latest TOS will write an IBM compatible disk, and DCFORMAT will do the same thing. Special formats (twisted, etc) may not work on an IBM, but at least one member reports that his 386SX at work will read his twisted ST disks. Another member, Juan D. Bravo, (r)elates the following story: "To all my fellow Atarians: I've been away for a long time (name it 3 years) from any serious activity on my old 520 ST, working on (yuk!!!) IBM machines. A few weeks ago, my boss got me a software package for graphics animation, to be run on one of our "fast" 486 machines. I had a big laugh!!. Those machines can hardly manage two dimensional moving graphics. I quickly remembered how well my ST (expanded to 1 meg) could handle full 3D graphics with CAD 3D by Tom Hudson. I mentioned it to my boss and he was impressed the next day when I showed him a demo. He wants me now to do all the related work at home in my ST." Should this be called "Ghost Computing?" Oh, why can't stories like this make it to CNN? Overshadowing some issues under discussion in the Atari and other forums, was (and is) the flaring up of tempers, the throwing of diatribes, and the exchange of profane hate EMAIL! To be sure, we are an argumentative bunch and have no fear of expressing our views. But we have to remember that it is not another computer we are communicating with.Nor is it another idea. It is another person, with feelings and emotions and... ammunition which can (and will!) be hurled our way! In one forum, we made the mistake of mentioning to one of two parties engaged in a debate that the regular rules of debate couldn't apply to telecomputing because there was enough of a time delay between comments to rethink and create a "formal" response (not unlike legal briefs). Well, we were accused of equating forum discussions with a court of law where there was a clear winner and loser! Not what we intended to say at all, but a clear demonstration of the problem! It is not in anyone's best interest to create a formal protocol of debate /discussion via telecomputing. But a little common sense goes a long way. We can't see or hear the other guy/gal who is leaving their message. We don't know if they're smiling, or spitting, so let's assume they're smiling, and if we do respond, let's keep it friendly whenever possible, or at the very least, professional! BTW, profanity in EMAIL is one thing, but profanity in public forums can be controlled by the SYSOPs, according to our own Ron Luks. And since Mr. Luks has been dragged into this issue of ZNET (is there a recent issue of anything he isn't mentioned in) we want to congratulate him on the big article in the March 1992 issue of CompuServe Magazine! Now, while Ron is in the spotlight, we'll also thank him for a little trick he related this week with regard to line noise .vs node problems: "Unfortunately, CIS customer service (or anybody's customer service for that matter) is all too quick to suggest that your problem may lie elsewhere. There's one quick test that I've found works exceptionally well and shuts them up in a quick second, if you are so inclined to spend a few extra pennies. Keep handy the phone number of another CIS node (even a long distance one) and if you are having bad connection problems, log off and immediately dial the other node (even a long distance call will cost less than a dollar just to check out the quality of the connection). If you are still having connection problems and line noise, the problem probably IS your local phone line, and its unlikely CIS can do anything about the problem. *BUT* if the long distance connection is quick and clean, the problem is OBVIOUSLY the local node and you can call CIS and inform them of your test call to the other node which confirms this. This should immediately get their attention. If it doesn't, you can call me and *I'll* jump all over customer service for you. Ron" Ombudsmanism abounds! Not having a Portfolio, I personally don't spend much time in the APORTFOLIO forum, but it is a very popular area. Coverage is problematic for two reasons. First, not having the machine makes it tough to write intelligently about it. Second, in that forum this week there were over 350 messages on no less than 85 topics! It will have to suffice to say that the Atari Portfolio is alive, well and living a well supported life on CIS! We're beginning to see some discussion in the vendor forum about Tiny Turbo, replete with benchmarks! It appears that most MIDI applications weren't tested, and as they are "speed sensitive" MIDI moguls may want to wait and see if will help them. Also, in the area of MIDI... the MIDI forums this week were again ablaze with discussions ranging from Stacy drive lights to public funding of the arts and just about everything in between! EditTrack users who have Stacys with MIDIPlexers, will want to upgrade (for free!) to version 6.01 (assuming you're at 6.00, now) so that the Stacy drive 1 light will go out after a save to the floppy. Stefan Daystrom at Hybrid Arts mentioned that most of the accelerators available for the ST do work with their programs, but you may want to consider a board which can be switched back to 8Mhz for those programs which are incompatible. Speaking of "switching off" we see from the count on the WPrfct Spell Checker that we're reaching the limits of our space in ZNET and should draw to a close. A sad note must end our discussion today. WordPerfect has announced it will continue to support Atari, Amiga and Apple machines. *NOT!* So if your favorite computers' name starts with an "A," you can kiss ideas of an update for this program goodbye! Or at least until the rest of the world catches up to us...<sob>. ====================================================================== * ATARI RELEASES HYPERLIST Press Release ====================================================================== Contact: Don Mandell Don Thomas Phone: (408) 745-2000 (408) 745-2000 Fax: (408) 745-2088 (408) 745-2088 SUNNYVALE, CA (March, 1992) -- Atari Computer Corporation has released a new software application for the Portfolio handheld computer. Hyperlist is a unique filing system which revolutionizes the way data may be organized in the Portfolio. Often described as an "outliner" or "database", Hyperlist provides the opportunity to create extensive lists, then attach "child" lists to each item in the "parent" list. On paper, the data flow resembles an organizational or flow chart. "This new system on the Portfolio opens many doors of opportunity", states Donald A. Thomas, Jr., Marketing Manager at Atari Computer Corp. "The software is easy to use, powerful and flexible; all at the same time." Hyperlist has been in development for almost an entire year. A hand picked team of BETA testers worked with early versions to assure that a wide variety of uses could be applied by using the finished product. Specific target markets include education, sales, medicine, law and general purpose. Students and educators enjoy Hyperlist for the ability to easily establish time lines. Each entry at the top reveals expounded details as it is selected. Class schedules and assignments can be arranged by due date, instructor or course study. Research materials can be collected in an impressively organized manner with references to sources, authors, dates or topics. Salespeople depend on Hyperlist to sort through parts by category, region or client. Established price lists and component specifications are instantly recalled by use of logical prompts created by entries on each level of the list. The Medical Community benefits by creating functional patient reference logs or developing custom reference notes on medicines, dosages and drug interactions. Attorneys find refuge in Hyperlist by recording step by step case procedures logical notation. HomeMakers store recipes, home businesses log business contacts, big businesses create departmental reporting plans... Hyperlist seems to do it all. Hyperlist is one of many optional applications developed specifically for the Portfolio computer by Atari. The Portfolio computer is about the size of a videocassette and weighs less than one pound. Often regarded as the ultimate organizer due to five powerful built-in programs, the Portfolio rivals the productivity of other palmtops or notebooks for a fractional price (299.95 MSRP). Other optional software titles for the Portfolio include Finance, Dos Utilities, Chess, Instant Spell, PowerBASIC and more. Over 700 files exist in the public domain for the Portfolio and are accessible on CompuServe and GEnie on line services. Hyperlist is value priced at only $49.95 manufacturer's suggested retail price and is available from Portfolio resellers. Portfolio is available from better computer dealers throughout the world. Most dealers will be happy to order it if they are out of stock. For more information on the Portfolio and its applications, contact Don Thomas, Portfolio Marketing Manager, 1196 Borregas Ave., Sunnyvale, CA 94088. (408) 745-2000. ====================================================================== * HOME ACCOUNTS 2 Press Release ====================================================================== ABC Solutions is pleased to announce that they have appointed the North American distributor for Home Accounts 2, the finest home accounting package available for the ST. Home Accounts 2 earned a Format Gold rating of 90% from ST Format magazine. Home Accounts 2 is a comprehensive home financial management package. It can also be used to manage a small business. It includes functions for multiple savings, checking and credit card accounts, budgeting, portfolio tracking and net worth reporting. DISPLAY * Fully supports the desktop, with 3D look and feel * HIP (Human Interface Protocol), a graphical environment which integrates the desktop and automates the way you work. * Predictable, consistent, you will find HIP both friendly and intuitive * Multiple windows (window positions and sizes are automatically remembered) * Icons for major functions (optional) * Background cocktail colour themes TRANSACTIONS * Number of accounts, types, transactions, budget entries, investments, and standing orders limited only by memory. * 12 month budget entry for income and expenditure (optional) * Show or hide option for each transaction heading * Definable defaults, saving tedious typing Budget calculator and replicate option * Set standing orders for any period * Sort transactions by any heading * Transfer funds between accounts * Balance accounts automatically * Edit transactions at any time * Transaction reconciliation * Auto cheque numbering * Transaction markers * Search and replace * Notepad facility GRAPHS * Pie, line, bar and scatter graphs * 3D Bar graphs, optional stacking and overlaying * Graphs for budgets, account balances, income accounts and expenditure types * Graphs are self-scaling to fit windows * Save graphs on disk in Degas Elite PRINTING * All reports fully configurable (including header/footer, character style and pitch) * Detailed statements for specified date range * Budget reports (optional comparative figures) * Totals of income accounts and expenditure * Net worth and portfolio report * Full report searching * Reports produced on-screen, printed or saved on disk (ASCII format) * 106 printer drivers and print spooler FILE HANDLING * Timed autosave and backup * Built-in utilities include format, disk info etc GENERAL * Many configuration options can be controlled by the user, including entry defaults, display headers, initial path, data file names and so on * Maximum and minimum warning on accounts * Extensive budgeting * View budgets by any period * View actual and projected budgets, side-by-side * Password facility * Definable function keys * Definable financial year period * Screen saver, Clock, Pop-up Notepad * Calculator, with interest and loan repayment * On-line help (optional interactive help) * Keyboard short cuts * Recoverable trashcan * Not copy protected * Mono and colour, ST/STe/Mega/TT A demo will be posted next week. Watch for your chance to test drive this amazing home accounting package. Home Accounts 2 is priced at $99 Cdn or $85 US (plus $10 s&h). Ontario residents add 8% PST; Canadian residents add 7% GST. To order, send check or money order to: ABC Solutions 4040 Creditview Road Unit 11-151 Mississauga Ontario L5C 3Y8 You may also get in touch with us by calling (416) 824-8484, or leave eMail on GEnie to ABC.SOLN. Other Products: * Publisher 2ST: the successor to Timeworks Desktop Publisher. Also available as an upgrade. * First Graph: a complete business and scientific graphing package. * K-Spread 4: the advanced presentation spreadsheet from KUMA software of England. The leading spreadsheet in Europe! And soon to be available, K-Spread 4 Lite ! * First Word Plus: upgrades only from 2.xx or 3.xx to 3.2TT. Also, a special disk of printer drivers for FWP. ====================================================================== * CEBIT REPORT FROM GENIE ====================================================================== Topic 33 Fri Mar 13, 1992 F.BELL1 [Frank @ Home] at 14:49 EST Sub: The Falcon The Falcon has been announced at CeBit ************ ------------ Category 14, Topic 33 Message 1 Fri Mar 13, 1992 F.BELL1 [Frank @ Home] at 14:50 EST I can't beleive it. Rumors flying around like mad. Everbody and his mother-in-law have their own opinion as to what Falcon is or should be or whatever. But when its announced nobody says anything. Not even Atari. :-( Anyway, although I wasn't at the CeBit I do have some first, second, and third hand informatation. First of all - the machine was only shown to a closed group of people, mostly dealers. It wasn't shown on the floor of CeBit. - The Falcon 030 is considered a follow-up machine to the 1040s, its contained in a 1040 case (or at least very similar), and black ala NeXT. - 68030 CPU running at 33Mhz, I beleave the whole machine runs at 33 Mhz or at least most of it. - DSP 56001 Signalprocessor (NeXT). - Up to 14MB RAM in simms. - Screen sizes, all ST/STE/TT resolutions except 1280*960, plus 640x480x 65535 (out of 256000 colors), plus some other stuff which I forgot (ah, ability to connect to external signal source). - Built-it 2.5" SCSI harddisk (this may still be a rumor). - All normal MegaSTE/TT connectors, ST and STE joy stick ports (4 in all), plus a built-in LAN connector and other toys (remember that signal processor). - Multi TOS, ya, real live Multi TOS, NOW!. Thanks guys. Multi TOS alone is worth dumping my expanded MegaST for a Falcon. - Delivery before September (this year). - I heard the Falcon should cost less than $1200.00, but with exchange rates the way they are and my bad ears, I may have heard the wrong price. Anyway, its plain to see that Atari has a new and wants a new 'low end' machine (or a super game machine - the choise is up to you) which isn't designed to replace the MegaTT, but designed for the masses and which can be sold to the masses. Rumor has it that the Falcon 040, the 'high end' machine, is almost ready, it didn't make it to CeBit by just a few days, and will be announced in September. Atari didn't say one word about the '040' - the rumor came from other sources. Great going Atari, meaning everybody who worked on getting the Falcon out. I wish you my best. Now lets hear for Bob and John and... Frank... 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